Working overseas (or not)

[Bontom]

Jester, you and Mexfish helped me with one job. The one in Albania. I explained to you I wasn't giving up my unemployment. Fluor was not letting me out of my job with out a a quit. Sorry we are all working for money. If you want to keep me from getting an overseas job, fine. Do what makes yourself feel good.

[tavarich]

Jester, you and Mexfish helped me with one job. The one in Albania. I explained to you I wasn't giving up my unemployment. Fluor was not letting me out of my job with out a a quit. Sorry we are all working for money. If you want to keep me from getting an overseas job, fine. Do what makes yourself feel good.

I got an idea. Why don't you take this little pisssin match to the personal message section. You can work it out with the boy's in private. I don't know about the rest of the crew but it's getting old.
And one question if you don't work overseas what the hell are you doing here anyway.:moon

[drifter]

I got an idea. Why don't you take this little pisssin match to the personal message section. You can work it out with the boy's in private. I don't know about the rest of the crew but it's getting old.
And one question if you don't work overseas what the hell are you doing here anyway.:moon


N I C E ! ! :sport002:

[TheJester]

Bontom, NO ONE is keeping you from working overseas, but YOU. Not only did I try to help get you to Albania, but I tried to do it TWICE. And I also tried to get you into Astana too. YOU won't let YOU get overseas.

[drifter]

If you're scared, say you're scared!! No sour grapes!!!:cheers

[Bontom]

I got an idea. Why don't you take this little pisssin match to the personal message section. You can work it out with the boy's in private. I don't know about the rest of the crew but it's getting old.
And one question if you don't work overseas what the hell are you doing here anyway.:moon

I'm so sorry. You are absolutly right. I just happened to be on site and saw a not true statement. I am not a dead beat as one would make me out to be.

This site is for poeple who also want to work overseas. I've worked in the trades since 1979. I wanted to do something new. Especially after working for Fluor for almost 14 of those years at one place.

Bontom, NO ONE is keeping you from working overseas, but YOU. Not only did I try to help get you to Albania, but I tried to do it TWICE. And I also tried to get you into Astana too. YOU won't let YOU get overseas.

I have never even heard of Astana. When did you do this? Who was the contractor?
Email me, no one wants to hear our discussion.

[alky]

Bon--
After reading all the excuses, on both sides, of your discussion with Jester; I totally agree with Jester! "No one is keeping you from going overseas to work but you".


After looking at your profile and seeing that you have many years with Fluor, and the age you listed, it seems to me that you only want to talk about going out of country for employment. You are an adult and should realize that for anything to change' you must make the first move. Either talk to the hr reps at Fluor and ask for a reassignment or quit your bellyaching about what happens overseas.

Also request of your company that your security clearance needs to be upgraded to t/s .

You have been sitting on one job with one contractor for several years. If you are that valuable to them stateside, you will be just as valuable to them overseas, but you have to iniate the first move.

If you want to work on a project overseas, you have to cut some ties with the past.

What ever you decide---Good luck--so quit yer bitchen and decide.

[Bontom]

Bon--
After reading all the excuses, on both sides, of your discussion with Jester; I totally agree with Jester! "No one is keeping you from going overseas to work but you".


After looking at your profile and seeing that you have many years with Fluor, and the age you listed, it seems to me that you only want to talk about going out of country for employment. You are an adult and should realize that for anything to change' you must make the first move. Either talk to the hr reps at Fluor and ask for a reassignment or quit your bellyaching about what happens overseas.

Also request of your company that your security clearance needs to be upgraded to t/s .

You have been sitting on one job with one contractor for several years. If you are that valuable to them stateside, you will be just as valuable to them overseas, but you have to iniate the first move.

If you want to work on a project overseas, you have to cut some ties with the past.

What ever you decide---Good luck--so quit yer bitchen and decide.

First of all Flour finisned up a clean up site for the Department of Energy. Unless you were someone in upper management they offered nothing to anyone. I have contacted Flour for many jobs they have.
I was layed off March 30, 2006.

For the one and only job I had offered over seas. There was no twice or trying to get me on in Astana. At least as far as I know. Just the one as I have said. I didn't take Abania because I couldn't quit and give up my pensions, severance and unemployement. That's what a great company Fluor is. If you quit them, they can keep all that money.

Second I don't have a clearance so it's not like a lot of companies are in a big hurry to hire me. I have applied with several. And as you have pointed out my age might be a factor and maybe even my gender. How many women have you seen on any of your jobs?

If you read everything, you will see where Jester said I was right, I won't work anywhere overseas.

Thanks for thoughts.

[roadhard]

I wish you would just go away.........

[TheJester]

Bontom.......Bontom......Bontom, come in Bontom.....this is earth, come in Bontom.

[Gabriele]

Chet, if I am not mistaken I believe that the job would need to require a TS, so just asking for the company to bump it up might not be able to do.

I asked the company I work for if they could do so as we have people with TS's, I was told only if the site requires it.

In fact we had one guy on an embassy job who was about to have his TS downgraded because he was on a non TS required site.

At least that is what I have been told. But then again, how long is it taking now a days to get one.

:2cents

[katze]

It takes quite a bit of money, time and patience to get a TS. There is a lot of background done on an individual. Mine took over a year (I was active duty at the time) and part of the reason is I have never been in one spot for very long during my life (military Mother). You go from interim secret, to secret, to top secret if the job requires it. You won't just loose your TS if the job doesn't call for a TS, you have to be at that site for a specified amount of time before you will get yourself downgraded (I am not sure how long though).
BUT you can see what was said by those interviewed concerning your TS/S or otherwise.

Certified DSS Form 30
Defense Security Service
Privacy Act Branch
PO Box 46060
Baltimore MD 21240-6060

[TheJester]

There was no twice or trying to get me on in Astana. At least as far as I know. Just the one as I have said. I didn't take Abania because I couldn't quit and give up my pensions, severance and unemployement.Ok, let me ask you this, did you not submit paperwork to Fluor to try and get on a job overseas with them being as you were already working with them? I remember you asking me all the time if there was a way to check on your paperwork because you had. That job, that was Astana. I remember it because when you had come on to ask about working overseas and mentioned you were with Fluor I pointed out that they were staffing up that job because it was the ONLY one Fluor had left.

To my count there have been THREE attempts of MY OWN to try and get you overseas that YOU have turned down.

Astana "...well, my daughter is about to have a child, my grandchild, and I would like to be here for the birth..." Nothing wrong with that, but that is what you said.

Albania - first time - "...Well, the Christmas holidays are coming up and I would like to be here with my family for that."

Albania - second time - "...Well, I don't want to give up my bonus from completing this job with Fluor and I'm not sure that I can work the 60 hour weeks..."

I remember these because on each one of those jobs, I stuck MY neck out for you and even contacted the people to let them know your resume was coming and you were going to go. Later on MexFish did the same thing on BOTH attempts to get you to Albania. To which you turning it down, made US look bad.

Bontom, it's fine, I don't dislike you, but YOU are the reason why YOU will not work overseas. YOU don't really want to go. YOU are here because you want to hang out and talk with the people that DO. Just like sitting in the bar after work talking shop. It has NOTHING to do with being a woman because, YES, I've seen several woman out here, and it has NOTHING to do with your age. Hell, I saw a 75 year old man with EMPHAZIMA that was hired on a job not to long ago.

Stop looking for excuses, stop "talking around the barn", stop trying to blame other people. Just admit, YOU don't really want to go because if you did, you would be there now.