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Justus
06-11-10, 03:53 PM
The lastest from our good friend Warren. I can say with 100% certainty that Aurora's 4 claims listed below (in italics) are accurate. Grunley-Walsh had absolutely NO control over FK and FK even laughed about it.

Did the State Dept go to bat for First Kuwaiti?

10-June-2010
Warren Strobel
Senior Correspondent/Foreign Affairs
McClatchy Newspapers


Some of our readers may tire of the saga of First Kuwaiti General Trading & Contracting Co., which has had a controversial part in four State Department embassy construction contracts, but new information keeps coming in - and N&S is determined to follow this story to the end.

The latest development involves allegations - and we stress, they are just allegations - that the State Department went to bat for First Kuwaiti back in 2006, forcing an American construction firm known as Grunley-Walsh International to accept FKTC as a subcontractor under terms very favorable to First Kuwaiti.

That's the substance of a letter to the State Department from lawyers for Aurora LLC, as Grunley-Walsh was renamed after it was sold (we hear at a bargain basement price) to a trio of investors who included a former top First Kuwaiti employee.

At the time, Grunley-Walsh had won three State Department contracts, to build a U.S. Embassy in Gabon and consulates in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia and Surabaya, Indonesia. (As we've previously reported, Aurora and First Kuwaiti have been kicked off the jobs in Gabon and Saudi Arabia). First Kuwaiti, meanwhile, was building the massive U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, where investigators found numerous, potentially life-threatening flaws in the work.

The April 29, 2010 letter from Aurora's lawyers alleges that the State Department's bureau of Overseas Building Operations (known by the acronym OBO) knew that the agreement between Aurora and First Kuwaiti actually put the foreign subcontractor, not the U.S. prime contractor, in charge:

Aurora may not coordinate, supervise or control FKTC's work.

Aurora may not stop work at the site regardless what FKTC may have done or failed to do in terms of safety, health or security.

Aurora may not take work away from FKTC when FKTC fails to perform it.

As maintained by FKTC and apparently endorsed by OBO, Aurora must pay FKTC a fixed share of contract receipts regardless whether FKTC has performed well or even performed at all.

The letter then goes on to make a startling charge:

Any prime contractor that willingly entered into such an arrangement would be justly questioned on grounds of sanity. In fact, Aurora's predecessor did not enter into this agreement willingly, but was compelled to do so by the concerted and combined actions of FKTC and OBO.

The letter's author, Richard C. Johnson of the firm Smith Pachter McWhorter declined comment, due to the ongoing contractual/legal dispute.

A State Department official with knowledge of the issue disputed this version of events. "The State Department has not interfered with the subcontracting arrangements of Aurora LLC predecessor Grunley Walsh or those of Aurora LLC," said the official, who was not authorized to speak for the record. "The content of language in a contract between contractors and subcontractors is a matter for discussion and negotiation between those two parties."

The official noted that Aurora was terminated from the Jeddah contract on May 10 this year, after 90 percent of the contract period had expired, with only 54 percent of the work done. (Aurora, according to other letters we obtained, is demanding $10.5 million in breach damages from the government, as well as $5.7 million for work it performed).

To make its case that it shouldn't be held responsible for the failure in Jeddah, Aurora cited an odd series of events it said occurred in November and December 2006, soon after it was awarded the three prime contracts.

The letter alleges that First Kuwaiti made it impossible from the outset to execute the contracts, "linking its further performance to GW's sale of its company to FKTC." Grunley-Walsh notified the State Department of the problem and, in November 2006, "with OBO's help and involvement located and signed up a substitute partner and prepared to go forward."

But, after "secret meetings" between First Kuwaiti and OBO, on November 28, 2006, OBO issued 10-day warnings, known as "cure notices," on all three construction contracts, the letter says. On November 30, it rejected the alternate partner and told Grunley Walsh "it could only go forward with FKTC or face three default terminations that would effectively destroy the company."

"As a direct consequence of OBO's actions, G-W was forced to accept the sale of its international division at a bargain basement price, and to accept the terms of an FKTC-dictated subcontract almost identical to those it had rejected earlier."

Hmmm. Was someone at the State Department working on First Kuwaiti's behalf? And if so, why? the story isn't over.

wkdivr
06-11-10, 11:00 PM
:banghead WOW!!!!!!!!!! :banghead

Electrical Al
06-12-10, 09:23 AM
You have to wonder why a company with any kind a legal department would give the go ahead and approve such a agreement. This is why you do not always accept a low bid from companies that do not what or how to deal building embassies.
This continued revoling of new companies and failure of quality companies makes it hard for the construction hands to have confidence in future if building our country's embassies.

We should pool a list of all qualfied embassy construction people of all trades and offer that list to all quaity contractors. Maybe this would help contractors improve their bid proposals for award list. I have been on this site for about fours years and I think we should come up with some fresh ideas everyone on how to imprive this deterioting problem with some of our u.s. companies. :2cents:AR15:banghead

wkdivr
06-12-10, 12:49 PM
Unfortunately, the list of quality contractors is narrowing by the day. There's always been a lot of jackoffs out there, but there's about 3 times that amount come out in recent years.

The Wild Rover
06-12-10, 04:21 PM
You have to wonder why a company with any kind a legal department would give the go ahead and approve such a agreement. This is why you do not always accept a low bid from companies that do not what or how to deal building embassies.
This continued revoling of new companies and failure of quality companies makes it hard for the construction hands to have confidence in future if building our country's embassies.

We should pool a list of all qualfied embassy construction people of all trades and offer that list to all quaity contractors. Maybe this would help contractors improve their bid proposals for award list. I have been on this site for about fours years and I think we should come up with some fresh ideas everyone on how to imprive this deterioting problem with some of our u.s. companies. :2cents:AR15:banghead

Electrical Al, no way...Good intentions, but there is a liability or slander lawsuit in there... That would shut us all down if we did that. Not what we want.:cheers

Electrical Al
06-13-10, 08:45 AM
O:k: Wild Rover Help with this a little, what would the lawsuit consist of providing a list of people who have spent years developing the skills and knowledge to build embassies, These guys usually need a list anyway to even start a legal tenior to bid anyway. A lot of workers spend two to four years building their position with a company just to see them fade out of embassy construction and then you start over trying to buld back from scratch with a new company just to find them either trying to screw the tradesman or they screwing the goverment or they hire project managers who do not know OBO policy and how to even deal with change orders. Then POOF they gone. Something needs to change and I beleive with all the experience of tradesmen on this site we could come up with something!!!!!
I am for one who would put my name in a pool of qualified embassy workers with confidence. I beleive I know others as well.

The Wild Rover
06-13-10, 09:08 AM
So then we should remove the Contractor contacts section, and only offer it to whom we deem worthy. Not everyone on this site is qualified. Most are not. Many have never gone through an apprenticeship, so how can they call themselves Journeymen if they never passed an accredited apprenticeship and a Journeyman exam. And that MC Dean test is a joke...bend me a 3 bend saddle. What's Ohms law... Should we only offer it to the licensed?...I know 10 so called Licensed Master Electricians that could not carry my tool box, but they always get the good jobs, while others are stuck in West Africa, that schmo is running the job in Kiev. Why? Does he know more. Is he a better worker. Does he have a better resume. Why? And who is to make that descision, you, me? I can buy a Texas Master Electrican License, so there goes that theory... Every swinging dick on here has the list now, most just sign up for the list, spend the $25 and are never heard from again...
It's up to OBO, to use qualified Contractors, and qualified Labor. Bottom Line. The system is broke, and needs to be repaired. How, I don't have the answer, but I bet a list would not do it, there has to be more.

Electrical Al
06-13-10, 04:26 PM
This is what I am trying to say Rover. We have a lot of good talent on this site and if we put our heads to it maybe we can fix maybe part of it. It''s worth the effort I do beleive. We all may not be united out in the field but this site could help, just anyone and everyone make a suggestion and don't be afraid of getting your ass kick on this site. If you beleive things can happen. I'll wait for other idea I beleive if you new the whole scope of what Dean does you would be change that 3 bend comment.

ThatDenaDude
06-14-10, 11:03 AM
Not everyone on this site is qualified. Most are not. Many have never gone through an apprenticeship, so how can they call themselves Journeymen if they never passed an accredited apprenticeship and a Journeyman exam. And that MC Dean test is a joke...bend me a 3 bend saddle.

The term 'mechanic' gets thrown around a lot in the industry in my neck of the woods (Baltimore/DC metro) and my father has always told me a mechanic is a guy who learned things on the job and Journeymen are apprenticed electricians.

Yeah, that Dean test was a bit foolish. I sat in that hotel reception area for 3 hours and drove to Dulles to be told they didn't like travelers. I do know that they take care of their guys if you can put up with the bullshit to get on board. Probably the best non-union shop to get on with in the metro area.

Really, you guys aren't touching on anything new. I can see that and I'm only 25 with 2 years out of apprenticeship. There will always be guys who can sell a hiring manager and not produce and there will always be the guys who are the best damn electricians around, but just can't put a resume together to reflect it to capture those valuable spots on the job offered here.

I know, that for myself, this site is well worth the 25. Hell, I'd pay more if I had to for this information. I can honestly say that hanging around here and watching the old guard go at it has given me a new perspective on the electrical trade and the way I conduct myself when hunting and when I'm on the job now.

Anyway, before this turns into a pointless rant, this doesn't seem like it will be an easy road. There are many speed bumps that can derail something like this - many people and companies who will get butt hurt along the way.

I'm down to help if I can!