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The Wild Rover
03-15-10, 04:11 PM
How Sad. I was working at the Consulate on 9-11. What a dangerous, messed up place.


CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico – A U.S. consulate employee and her husband were shot to death as they drove in this drug-plagued Mexican city with their baby in the back seat, minutes after gunmen killed the husband of another consular employee and wounded his two children, officials said Sunday.

President Barack Obama expressed outrage over the killings, and Mexican President Felipe Calderon said he was indignant and promised a swift investigation.

Several U.S. citizens have been killed in Mexico's drug war, most of them people with family ties to Mexico. It is very rare for American government employees to be targeted, although assailants hurled grenades at the U.S. consulate in the northern city of Monterrey in 2008.

U.S. State Department spokesman Fred Lash said the three slain people had attended the same social event before the attacks Saturday. But police said they had no information on a possible motive or whether the attacks were related.

Civilians have increasingly gotten caught in the middle of drug gang violence that has made Ciudad Juarez one of the deadliest cities in the world, with more than 2,500 people killed last year alone. At least 11 people were killed in Ciudad Juarez over the weekend.

The three died during a particularly bloody weekend in Mexico, with nearly 50 people killed in apparent gang violence. Nine people were killed in a gang shootout early Sunday in the Pacific resort city of Acapulco, one of Mexico's spring break attractions.

The State Department authorized U.S. government employees at Ciudad Juarez and five other U.S. consulates in northern Mexico to send their family members out of the area because of concerns about rising drug violence. The cities are Tijuana, Nogales, Nuevo Laredo, Monterrey and Matamoros.

Lash said the decision was based not only on Saturday's killings but also on a wider pattern of violence and threats in northern Mexico in recent weeks. The State Department noted the U.S. Embassy in Mexico City has advised American citizens to delay unnecessary travel to parts of the Mexican states of Durango, Coahuila and Chihuahua.

The U.S. consulate employee and her husband were shot to death Saturday afternoon in their car near the Santa Fe International bridge linking Ciudad Juarez with El Paso, Texas, said Vladimir Tuexi, a spokesman for the Chihuahua state prosecutors office.

The woman was shot in the head, while her husband suffered bullet wounds in his neck and arm. Their baby was found unharmed in the back seat. Tuexi estimated the child was about 1 year old.

The pair was identified as consular employee Lesley A. Enriquez, 35, and her husband, Arthur H. Redelfs, 34, by Robert Cason, Redelfs' stepfather. Redelfs was a detention officer at the El Paso County Jail, he said.

Cason declined to discuss the welfare of his grandchild. "I don't want to give any more information to the psychotics out there," he said.

Tuexi said the baby was in the custody of Mexican social services.

The U.S. government had not described Enriquez's job at the consulate, and Cason said he didn't know what she did there. A neighbor of Enriquez, Zonia Rivas, also didn't know.

"I do know she just went back to work about three months ago after having her baby," she said.

Ten minutes before the killing, police had found the body of the husband of a Mexican employee of the consulate.

Jorge Alberto Salcido Ceniceros, 37, was shot to death in his car, while his two children, ages 4 and 7, were wounded, according to the state prosecutors office. The children were hospitalized.

Obama was "deeply saddened and outraged" by the killings, the White House said.

"He extends his condolences to the families and condemns these attacks on consular and diplomatic personnel serving at our foreign missions," the statement said. "In concert with Mexican authorities, we will work tirelessly to bring their killers to justice."

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said "these appalling assaults on members of our own State Department family are, sadly, part of a growing tragedy besetting many communities in Mexico."

"They underscore the imperative of our continued commitment to work closely with the Government of President Calderon to cripple the influence of trafficking organizations at work in Mexico," she added. "This is a responsibility we must shoulder together."

Calderon's office said the Mexican president "expresses his indignation" and "his sincerest condolences to the families of the victims." He "reiterated the Mexican government's unwavering compromise to resolve these grave crimes."

guitartexan
03-16-10, 02:56 AM
I grew up on the border and crossed into Mexico many times. It was good back then, fun and safe.
You could not pay me to go there now. I advise anyone planning a vaca there or to one of the resorts to head somwhere else. We need to choke off the income to this cesspool. The U.S. had better get serious about this and stop all the illegal immigrant assisters and LULAC and such. All they advocate is an open border for their people. They have no interest in becoming citizens, they just want the benefits.

:2cents

GT

The Wild Rover
03-16-10, 05:10 AM
Either come here legally, like my grandparents did. Like my wife did, like millions have... or GET THE HELL OUT! This is from their website.


The League of United Latin American Citizens

Take Action in support of Comprehensive Immigration Reform
Our nation urgently needs an effective and practical immigration system that will reflect the best of America's values. Please join President Rosales and our LULAC members across the country in holding in-district meetings with your elected representatives to urge their support of a Comprehensive Immigration Reform package that will:

•Reduce the backlog of individuals seeking residency or citizenship and restructure the naturalization process in a manner that is streamlined, consistent, fair, and equitable for those seeking US Citizenship,
•Include a family reunification component and a pathway to legalization for 11 million persons seeking documentation,
•Ensure strong worker protections are in place before any "guest worker" type provisions are considered,
•Address our enforcement needs in a manner that is just, and consistent with our existing due process and civil rights laws.

Justus
03-16-10, 06:59 PM
The killing of the DoS employees and family members really hits home for me, some of you know why. I really feel for those families and pray nothing else will happen there. It's a big deal when DoS authorizes the departure of family members...they are saying the country or region is no longer safe and to get the hell out. And you can believe that they're telling them to leave, not giving them a choice.

I know why we have missions all over the world but sometimes (more often here lately) I get sick and fucking tired of "us" thinking we need to be everywhere. There are places we shouldn't be and it looks like Mexico is one of those right now.

guitartexan
03-16-10, 10:18 PM
Amen Justus. Let them rot in their violence. Pull out all Americans and seal the border with troops. They will sort it out among themselves and we will then deal with the survivors. Stop sending aid as well.

:2cents

GT

pacificdiver
03-17-10, 06:29 AM
It was real bad...now it's even worse! I remember one of the locals told us to stay in on a certain day cause there was going to be hell and they saw all this on a website!
I am talking 07-08 era...if you compare the total deaths/year and compare it to Baghdad...it's bad!

:2cents

Gabriele
03-19-10, 09:46 AM
The security folks here put out emails to pass info of any planned pickets in the area and to avoid them, of course this incident would not have been thought of, I hope. One thing the government has done here is to issue standard european licence plates/tags for the cars, no more USA logo's on them.

I'm not sure what happened here, seems the killings have been dealing with drugs, do you suppose these folks might have been involved in drugs (just asking) seems like she was a low level employee there.

The Wild Rover
03-19-10, 03:29 PM
I don't know where you are Gabe...I assume Europe. I will add that bumber sticker patriotism is bullshit. You should not judge a person by the number of "Go USA" stickers on their car. And the idiots working overseas are taught to be as low key as possible, but somoehow, they are too smart for what the experts tell them.

Gabriele
03-19-10, 08:39 PM
There still are a few cars here with the USA logo on them, this was standard issue from the German/European government(s) until a few years ago I am told, now they come only with the country's letter on them (much like in the USA, each state has their name on them. Of course usually the type of car a person drives is a tell tale sign, in europe the rear turn signals are amber, the USA cars are red.

I did just read where the FBI believes this was a targeted attack and not a random one.