A time to honor

[guitartexan]

I just got home from another long day and thinking how tough it is. HaH!
I have not seen anything relating to Memorial Day. This site is all about being out there and working in adverse environments and conditions.
I realize that we all need jobs and we are all worried about money and the kids schooling and insurance and uplifts and, and ,and...........

Lets take a few minutes and remember our fallen Army soldiers. The Marines on some God forsaken hill. The Air Force guys flying and fueling the planes, the Navy man out at sea or under it for months. Lets put aside ourselves and our wants for a few minutes and remember. 24/7 is their life.

And death sometimes.

'nough said.

[jeavalanche]

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[guitartexan]

If this is your badge J.A., then I thank you for your service to our nation.

[jeavalanche]

no its my fathers, very proud, he got so messed up over there, he had to drive the general around for the last 3 months.
thanks
thats what i say to everyone "thanks for your service to this great nation"
amen

[guitartexan]

GUTS is all I have to say. A ranger is a man people can count on. Women find them attractive and in a pinch, this is the man that will pull your bacon out of the fire.

Hats off to your Father.

[jeavalanche]

your right g.t., i live in a sub-division of about 300 houses. everyone has atleast an acre if not more. not only this site but where we live, i would like to see so much more coming from people. i took my two kids fishing this morning to our little pond and i probally past 50 houses to get there and only seen maybe three other flags flying besides mine. i dont know how many people have signed on to ratpack today? but please show respect for the great people that help you sleep at night.


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[Gabriele]

I'm working in Germany at an army base, in fact there are four in the area and while they did have last Friday off as a "training day", in which the military were off, there wasn't any ceremony for Memorial Day this Monday, perhaps they will on Memorial Day, May 31.

I hope to visit some of the memorial grounds while I am here, not far from France, Italy and a few other places.

[Javabear]

I'm at Bagram Air Field, Afghanistan and there was a ceremony here as well as a special meal at the DFACs.

[TheJester]

Roger that shit. Remember, Engineers lead the way. :D

[pacificdiver]

Don't Contractors Count When We Calculate the Costs of War?

By Steven Schooner
Monday, May 25, 2009
Despite the light that Memorial Day will shine, briefly, on the U.S. death tolls in Iraq and Afghanistan, don't expect an accurate accounting of the real human cost of our military actions abroad. The numbers you'll see -- mostly likely just under 5,000 fatalities -- won't tell the whole story.
As of June 2008 (the most recent reliable numbers available publicly), more than 1,350 civilian contractor personnel had died in Iraq and Afghanistan supporting our efforts. About 29,000 contractors had been injured, more than 8,300 seriously.
But don't expect President Obama to remember or thank the contractor personnel who died supporting our troops or diplomatic missions. Instead, expect to see contractor personnel in Iraq and Afghanistan continue to be portrayed as expendable profiteers, adventure seekers or marginalized members of society who are not entitled to the same respect or value given to members of the military.
That portrayal, of course, is neither accurate nor fair. Most contractors perform tasks that a generation ago would have been done by uniformed service members. A significant number of these contractors are former members of the military who believe they're answering the same call they would have answered had the crisis arisen while they were on active duty.
Many of the victims are Iraqis and other foreign nationals working under U.S. government contracts. But whether or not they are U.S. citizens, the central fact remains: If our military was less dependent on contractors, these fatalities probably would have been of uniformed service members.
An honest, accurate tally is important because the public -- and, for that matter, Congress -- does not grasp the level of the military's reliance on contractors in the battle area, nor the extent of these contractors' sacrifices. Simply put, the contemporary, heavily outsourced U.S. military cannot effectively fight or sustain itself without a significant, if not unprecedented, presence of embedded contractors. In Iraq, our contractor-to-troop ratio has exceeded 1 to 1. The State Department admitted last summer that it could not remain in Iraq without heavy reliance on private security.
An accurate tally is critical to any discussion of the costs and benefits of our efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan. War proponents benefit from the massive contractor presence because it permits them to suggest that our military presence is smaller than what is actually required. And to the extent that the public cares about military fatalities, the human cost of our efforts in Iraq appears much smaller than it would if we didn't rely so heavily on contractors.
In 2006 and 2007, the contractor death rate climbed dramatically. After much smaller numbers during the first three years of the Iraq war, at least 301 civilian contractors died in 2006. At least 353 civilian contractors died in Iraq in 2007, while 901 U.S. military personnel died there. In other words, in 2007, contractors accounted for more than one in four deaths associated with the U.S. occupation.
If anything, the number of contractor deaths is understated. Last year, for the first time, Congress began to require the Pentagon, the State Department and the Agency for International Development to keep track of how many contractors are working in Iraq and Afghanistan and how many have been killed and wounded. The Defense Department recently conceded that it is trying but is not yet up to the task.
The Labor Department generates but does not publish data quarterly on contractor deaths, but only because insurance claims are filed with its Division of Longshore and Harbor Workers Compensation. (American contractors are required to provide Defense Base Act insurance, which falls under that program.) If a contractor's family or employer does not seek insurance compensation, that death isn't counted. There's no doubt that the allied death toll is significantly higher than reported and that contractors bear a far greater burden in this regard than the public appreciates.
In a representative democracy, public awareness of the human cost of our engagements abroad is critical. If we're going to tally the human cost of our efforts, the public deserves a full accounting.
The writer, a retired Army Reserve judge advocate, is co-director of the Government Procurement Law program at George Washington University. He was a White House procurement policy official from 1996 to 1998. He published an academic article, "Why Contractor Fatalities Matter," in the Autumn 2008 issue of the Army War College's quarterly journal, Parameters.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/19/world/africa/19iht-contractors.1.5780499.html