PDA

View Full Version : Riches to rags for Chineeeeeeese Workers?????


The Wild Rover
02-21-09, 09:49 AM
From CNN. With my own comments added. It's sad...who's going to make our Nike tennis shoes? Who will make our plastic lawn furniture and all our overpriced toys? Who will supply Walmart with useless shit? Oh Boo frigging Hoo...I say, Build American, Buy American!!! Too bad we don't make anythng here anymore, including jobs! I feel sorry for the poor in China, but Feed 'em fish-heads and rice! We have more than enough poor and jobless here. We have Veterans living in the streets because they are broke! Maybe America can make it's own shoes for once...hell, we used to make Thunderbirds in this country, and we should start by taking care of our own people for once...


JING SHI, China (CNN) -- Tang Hui and his family prospered as migrant workers during China's economic boom, earning $10,000 a year: enough to build a house, send a cousin to school and pay for his grandmother's medical bills.


Tang Hui lost his manufacturing job in October just days after getting married. (Should have stayed single!) But those good days are over. The family's cash earnings have evaporated, snatched away by a manufacturing crash cascading across China caused by falling global demand for its goods.

The nine people in the Tang family are facing an income of zero; their best hope to survive is to grow rice and raise pigs at home in the Sichuan Mountains. ( many Americans can't even afford that)"Farming is really hard. (No Shit Sherlock!) It needs a lot of hard labor," says 22-year-old Tang Hui, who lost his manufacturing job four months ago. "None of the young people want to farm nowadays. The income is extremely low." (Many of our young would not even try)A Chinese proverb says: "Going on the road to Sichuan is as hard as going to heaven." ( I like this proverb...Man with itchy rear have smelly finger!) Isolated and mountainous, Sichuan is China's third most populous province; 60 percent of its 87 million residents are poor and live in the countryside, authorities say.

It became the nation's biggest source of the 130 million farmers who migrated into Chinese cities, especially in the south, to provide cheap labor for factories that churned out products, mainly for export to the United States.( Wal MArt) The province was also rocked last May by a massive earthquake that killed tens of thousands of people. (US is the #1 Contributor to their Aid Program!)
Five years ago, Tang Hui left for southern Guangdong province to work in a factory producing handbags and backpacks. He had to drop out of high school because his family was so poor.

There, he earned enough to stash away savings for his wedding. But last October, just days after he got married, his factory abruptly closed down. It was receiving no more orders from its American clients. Watch Tang Hui walk muddy roads to get home
"I hope the government can help us during this crisis," he says. "I hope it won't be like this for too long. Now, there is not even enough money to celebrate the holidays." (Well Gee, It looks the same in America. Maybe you could flood the market with more useless junk?)
At least he was able to spend the most important Chinese holiday of the year, the Spring Festival, at home in Qingbadong village.

The road uphill to the village was muddy and slippery. The winter rice fields were brown; the slopes were covered in winter fog. "In two, three months," Tang Hui says, "everything will be green and blooming."

And the festive mood -- the first time in six years the whole family celebrated the holiday together -- was short-lived. (Yeah, Boo Hoo. The holidays here were marred by millions foreclosing on their homes)
Reality is never far away. Many of the villagers are unemployed. The Tang's next-door neighbors, a married couple, lost their jobs in a Guangdong shoe factory after working there for 16 years.

"A few months without jobs would be disastrous for us," Tang Hui frets.

Before they ventured out as migrants, the Tangs lived in a wooden shack. Now, they live in a two-story brick house, with 10 rooms, concrete floors, an open fire pit for cooking. Still, it has no running water and one outdoor latrine. ( Well, until 50 years ago,many in America lived that way. Mant still do in some areas. You should see the Adirondack Mountain Villages)
In the past months, about 70,000 factories nationwide have closed. Beijing official Chen Xiwen estimates about 20 million migrant workers have lost jobs. Tens of thousands of villages in the countryside depend on migrant workers' income.

China analysts say the spike in unemployment has caught China off guard. "The central government is now telling local governments to provide help and job training, re-employment," says Wenran Jiang, a political science professor and China expert at Canada's University of Alberta.

Vice Minister of Commerce Jiang Zengwei says China is offering "a one-off subsidy of 100-150 yuan ($15 to $22) to 74 million low-income people ... for temporary relief." Still, it will take some time before such measures make a difference.

Some analysts have suggested that a "rural revolution" is imminent amid the economic turmoil. However, Wenran Jiang says such talk is premature. But he also says the central government must do more in the coming months.

"Many migrant workers have lived a very hard and simple life," he says. "They have some savings for a rainy day like this, so in the short-term they may be able to cope -- but if eight or 12 months later things continue to deteriorate, it could turn volatile." ( well, welcome to our hell)
Most farmers like the Tangs do not get social security. ( Our Social Security was mis-used long ago. There will never be any for me when I retire) So villagers who lost factory jobs have few choices except go back to farming. But it is not easy.

Farming feeds people but brings little cash. (Gee, like our farmers are so rich!) Millions of the jobless are second-generation migrant workers, young people who grew up in cities.

"It would be very hard," says Tang Hui. "I have never farmed. I don't know how to do it."

To cope, China is creating training programs in the countryside. One of the pilot centers is in Chongqing municipality. Some 30,000 workers have so far taken classes in farming, farming machinery repairs, tailoring and other vocational skills. The trainees got a one-time incentive of about $45. ( You should see Youngstown Ohio, Pal. It's a ghost-town. They used to make steel there before the Chinese and Japanese flooded our markets)

But the Tangs have never heard about such programs. When asked about the central government's plan to invest billions of dollars in countryside infrastructure as a part of a huge stimulus package, they expressed anger. (You have Angry Face! Let me see you War Face! AAAAAGGGGHHHH)"The central government has good ideas and intentions, but the local officials often ignore them. (Gee, sounds familiar) The road in our village was built by the local government but we had to pay for it. Every family had to pay $100 or more. We get nothing from the government," says Hui's father, Tang Zhong Min.

In the evening, the family huddles around an open wood stove. (Wood is much cheaper to burn when America cuts it's own forrests down, ships the wood to Chinese factories, that turn it into shitty furniture and send it back to the US to sell. And we Buy it, that's what chokes me up! Gee, now they have wood to Burn! Where was this wood before?) The stove and a small portable electric heater are the only sources of warmth during the cold winter nights. A flickering fluorescent lightbulb barely lights the room. (I think I stayed there on the last Harbert job I was on! Nice bar-girls though, and cheap beer!)

Tang Hui's wife, Li Xiaochun, is 21 years old. She used to cut leather in a textile factory, and will soon head back to Guangdong with her husband to search for work.

"I think to be at home is better. I didn't get used to living outside. I didn't get used to Guangdong. It is better at home," she says.

Tang Hui then interrupts. "Of course, I also like it at home, but it is better in other places. Coming home is only good during the Spring Festival," he says.

Despite the uncertainty, they remain optimistic.

"We are young. There must be some factories still open out there. We should be OK to go out and do something," Li Xiaochun says.
( Idle hands are the devils play-things. I bet China has a huge baby boom)


But Tang Hui's mother is not so convinced. "Of course I am worried. How can they live without jobs, with no money so far away from home?" asks 46-year-old Hu Xiaoju.(46! She probably looks like 80! 46 in China is tough-meat! ) "But I will definitely go, too." For the Tangs and millions of others in China, the road to Guangdong and employment may prove even more difficult then the proverbial...(Add your own comment here!)

mexfishguide
02-21-09, 11:41 AM
For some time now, I have contacted ever elected official, I can reach. We are buried in a bad money problem here at home. I firmly believe in ( charity begins at home ) no one in office will listen - what the hell is wrong with bringing home thousands of jobs, that were allowed to go off shore?? Along the same kind of thought - the auto bail out money, will help the offshore assembly and parts makers as much are more then it will our own people.
It matters not if we like it are not - we have many folks in our country that are not able to move up the ladder, from menial production work - Fact!!!
We need some good old american ingunity from our officials, but we are not getting it. :wtf very sad indeed.

Take Care
Fishguide:cheers

Gabriele
02-21-09, 12:49 PM
I know you blast Wal Mart, but just tell me which store carries all american made clothing. While working in Cambodia I found many stores clothing made there, take a look at Levi's not one made here in the states anymore. For me I don't seeing paying more for a product that I can buy elsewhere and comes from the same third world country.

The Wild Rover
02-22-09, 05:21 AM
I'm making a statement that nothing is made here, and the last thing WE should care about is China! And for your statement...
"For me I don't seeing paying more for a product that I can buy elsewhere and comes from the same third world country." is exactly one of the reasons Americans CAN'T make anything in our country anynore. I don't know that if we started making goods in the USA, if the prices would be reasonable, or competitve...but I do know this, WE import more of their goods, than they do of ours. There is a HUGE trade deficit, and why? Because they pay their people extremely low wages. Their standard of living is way below ours, so masive amounts of cheaply made goods, by poorly paid industries, dumped onto our markets, and unfair labor practices, makes America a throw away and buy a new one type of society. We were so caught up in the act of having the newest cell phone or music player, we have created a huge vacuum in the East, just to supply our insatiable desire to have more and more! I hear shoe cobblers and tailors are thriving now in the US, because the mentality is now, I can't afford a new one, maybe I can get this one fixed.
By the way, the number 1 importer of Chinese goods is not the United States...it's Wal Mart (talk about your unfair labor practices!). Wal Mart imports more Chinese crap than any other Nation on earth. And we step on each other at the Christmas sales to get to this shit! We definitely need a wake up call...we don't make hardly anything in this country anymore. We are a nation of consumers. No wonder the economy is in the toilet. Where are these people going to find work, so they can start buying more useless junk, so we can keep our number one industry afloat. And what might you ask is that? It's the department stores! What are we going to do?:cheers

Gabriele
02-22-09, 06:08 AM
I agree we need to encourage more manufacturing here at home, I come from steel mill country and have seen many plants shuttered, people laid off, benefits cut. My favorite pants, Levi's are no longer made here in the states, but Mexico, if still there. I'm not sure of your age, but I am of the age to remember when Japan was the issue, buying cheap Japanese products, even their cars, now look at their products. I always laughed when auto workers complained of the imports hurting their jobs, yet they drove them too. Just recently Obamas stimulas plan made waves in the foregin arena, looked liked protectionism of jobs and the rest of the world balked and they backed up and restated. Why buy at Pennys or Sears or Norstroms when you can get the same from Wal Mart, Target, KMart, or the likes. It's not Wal Mart the bad guy, it's those who took the stuff overseas to make a better profit. :cheers

mexfishguide
02-22-09, 10:55 AM
Good subject for consideration and the comments so far are on track. The different firms cry we need to move off shore, so we use cheeper labor to make our product - seems dam funny to me their production cost down, their profits go up - but did you ever see one of these firms offer to share the lower cost with their customers?? :wtfNot a chance in hell!!!!!!! We have sub sidised other countrys to the point we have broke ourself. For many years it was look for the UNION label and buy that product - now you can not only find no union labels on any clothing - in fact you can no longer buy american made.. We are fast becoming a welfare / socialist country. A proud positive thinking AMERICAN.

Thake Care
Fish Guide
:cheers