Political Debate

[hotshot]

Things should get better after the Bush Administration's term is up!! I bet Hillary won't give contracts to First Kuwait

[plumberBlake]

Just the thought of her, make's me want to puke.

You are correct, she wouldn't give a contract to FK, she would give it to a Chinese contractor.

[emerse]

Well lets hope that Edwards gets the vote, he is the only puke out there that is for the working MAN or woman. He is against NAFTA, I don't know about you but I am tired of American jobs going over to India. Not to mention that when I call to get help, pay a bill, or to reach customer service I would like to talk to an American if I am dealing with an American company...:wtf

[mexfishguide]

Guys and gals.

There is not a man are woman running for office, regardless of party,
that has what it takes to straghten out the mess we have made of our country in the last 40 years, by being careless with whom weeee vote for.

Not only NAFT !!! But we now ow Japan and China billions of dollars , we have borrowed to finance the Afghan / Iraq wars. China has shipped millions of srticles to the US capable of killing our children!!!!!!!!

This one world shit, from Clinton and his cronies, will kill the middle class america. Why can we not build our own stuff of all kinds, in the big WW11, we won by out prooducing the rest of the world, we changed the product of many plants in a few days to war time products from peace time stuff.

Now we have no plants to produce anything with###@@@!!!***&, bunch of ass holes.

Take Care
Mexfishguide:cheers

[Gabriele]

I agree that neither major political parties have much difference between them. It has become more of what each can do to hinder the other instead of doing what is best or the right thing for America and it's people. I have no issues with any corporate or private business to make as much as they can, but when our people our laid off and on welfare while we pour billions into other nations economy, is BS. When NAFTA first was being brought up it was that more intellectual jobs would be available for US citizans, but not every one can be the data pro, someone has to the grunt work. I recall when AT&T (the original) sent cords to Mexico to be assembled while they sold Made in the USA stuff, it wasn't too long before they started more going there and then they became to expensive so on to even cheaper nations. We all know pretty much what locals make in the countries we have worked, so why are the products still so high here. I'm not an isolationist, but I do think we need to stop the flow of jobs out of the USA, we need to have Americans work on American projects outside the USA and we need to bring jobs back. What I laugh at with the pol's is that they talk about stuff, but we know that neither party will back anything up that will make the other party look good. :cheers

[mexfishguide]

About all I can say is.


GOD BLESS AMERICA

Take Care
Mexfishguide

[paintermike]

About all I can say is.


GOD BLESS AMERICA

Take Care
Mexfishguide AMEN TO THAT!!!!

[k2dukes]

My father told me that you should always vote for the one that lies the best, and the way to tell if they are lying is that their lips move when they talk :rockwoot:. I agree with Mexi, our so called leaders have sold us out to the world, which is a shame on us, the hard working people in the U.S. for not paying attention and keeping our so called leaders held accountable. Remember they work for us, not us for them. And that is all that I have to say about that. :2cents :2cents

[emerse]

Hillary seemed to be good for a while, but then she sold out just like the rest of them... Just a matter of time I guess. I remember what my dad told me, Don't believe anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die!:blahslap

[Megga Watt]

Hillary seemed to be good for a while, but then she sold out just like the rest of them... Just a matter of time I guess. I remember what my dad told me, Don't believe anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die!:blahslap

:lol: OK I am now sitting in Starbucks at the Amman Jordan airport with coffee coming out of my nose!!
I liked that one Emerse :blahslap

[tavi]

provided that those doing the debating have done their research. so i guess the first question to ask is "what is politics?" one of the best definitions is from Hunter S. Thompson who said that "politics is the art of controlling your environment"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_S._Thompson

which brings up the question "how much control do we have of our environment individually, or as voters collectively?" not a heck of a lot from my perspective,since money has become the single most important aspect of any politicians career those old sayings "follow the money" and "money is the mothers milk of politics" define the problem rather well. incumbent elected officials will find some "hot button" issues like gun control, abortion, immigration, whatever. that cater to their constituencys, their voters. and when election time rolls around they will drag out the "issues" to debate with their ahem "politicial opponents" to get your vote then after they have been re-elected its back to business as usual. the business partners involved are the political action committee's, lobbyist's, partisian think tanks, and the very generous corporate contributions that sustain them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_action_committee

now large trans-national corporations don't like to waste money it makes the board of directors very unhappy,it makes upper level management concerned about their extremely generous salaries and very nice stock options so politicions usually deliver the goods they're paid to deliver. like ex- CONgressman duke cunningham, currently residing at some club fed somewhere. for being infleunced on how the black buget goodies are allocated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Cunningham

it looks like both politicial parties are beyond redemption or rehabilation, and the only thing they're concerned about is reelection so they can bellly up the the biggest hogtrough of money in the history of human governance. have you ever wondered why these people are willing to raise more money for their politicial campaigns than they will (legally) make in their careers? do you think there might be some off shore finiancal payback going on? Cunningham was a drunken dumbass to get caught like he did, does anyone have any guesses on how 800-900 million in us dollars might have dissapeared from that "locked" vault in saddam's palace that was for the Iraqi provicincial govmt? it seems like politics is deliberately made so boring so you fall asleep wacthing c-span and miss the clip where they pick your pocket.

[TheJester]

Got this from a buddy and thought it was exactly right. :banghead

www.ratpackinternational.com/videos/Dont_Elect_Hillary.wmv (http://www.ratpackinternational.com/videos/Dont_Elect_Hillary.wmv)

Depending on your connection, it might take a bit to load.