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The Wild Rover
10-05-07, 04:45 PM
F@#$ it as far as I am concerned...this place should be leveled, and re-built. Read below..

WASHINGTON - The opening of a mammoth, $600 million U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, which had been planned for last month, has now been delayed well into next year, U.S. officials said Thursday. The Vatican-sized compound, which will be the world's largest diplomatic mission, has been beset by construction and logistical problems.

"They are substantially behind at this point," and it would be surprising if any offices or living quarters could be occupied before the end of the year, one official told The Associated Press.


Problems identified so far are related to the complex's physical plant, including electrical systems, and do not pose a security risk, said the official, who was not authorized to speak publicly.
For those of us that are sparkies...electrical problems usually affect security. Who are they kidding!!!
The official also said the delays would have no direct cost to taxpayers because contractor First Kuwaiti General Trading & Contracting Co. had agreed to deliver for a set $592 million price.
That official, and another who works in Iraq, said it had been clear for some time that the promised September completion date could not be met and that State Department officials had been overly optimistic in insisting the timeline was realistic.

State Department spokesmen have in the past played down construction problems at the embassy and attributed them to the normal hurdles faced in building such a large complex.

Deputy spokesman Tom Casey said Thursday he was not aware of any new major delay in the opening of the embassy that will sit on a 104-acre site and have working space for about 1,000 people.

The U.S. official said the complex was supposed to be substantially completed in August. The first move of offices or personnel from temporary quarters in the fortified Green Zone had been planned for this fall.

Embassy employees have been working and living in a makeshift complex in and around a Saddam-era palace that the Iraqis have said they want back quickly.

The temporary quarters are cramped and increasingly dangerous. Many employees live in trailers that are not fully protected from mortars fired from outside the Green Zone.

Insurgents have gotten better at firing into the heavily guarded zone in attacks this year have killed several people. The new complex is supposed to be safer, with additional blast walls and other protection.In a letter sent to Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte on Thursday, Rep. Tom Lantos, D-Calif., chairman of the House International Relations Committee, demanded explanations for what was holding up the project.

"I am writing to express my serious concern that our new embassy compound in Iraq is apparently facing significant contractor deficiencies that will delay its opening for weeks or even months past its promised delivery date of September 2007," Lantos wrote.

"These delays and deficiencies undermine the security and the living standards of the almost 1,000 foreign service officers and other embassy staff that will be housed at the Baghdad embassy, and they raise serious concerns about Department of State contracting for new embassy construction in other locations as well," he said. This tells me we are in trouble!!! Re-read that last paragraph..."Other locations as well!!!"


Lantos noted that his committee had been assured on numerous occasions by State Department officials, notably by retired Army Maj. Gen. Charles Williams, who oversees embassy construction projects around the world, that the construction would be completed on time.

"Why was the committee assured as late as August that the embassy would open on time when these obviously significant defects existed?" he asked.

Casey, the deputy spokesman, could not say if Negroponte had seen Lantos' letter.

Another influential lawmaker, Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., chairman of the House Oversight and Governmental Reform Committee, has harshly criticized the State Department and its inspector general for failing to follow up on allegations of malfeasance and fraud by the embassy contractors.

The new questions come as the department is struggling to deal with the furor over a Sept. 16 incident in which private security guards protecting an embassy convoy were involved in a shooting in Baghdad.

At least 13 Iraqi civilians were killed in the incident, which has sparked Iraqi anger and prompted several separate investigations into not only the shooting, but the State Department's security practices and reliance on private contractors in Iraq.

Megga Watt
10-10-07, 11:56 PM
Here are a couple of more links on the problems haunting the opening of the New State Department Screw up.:wtf

http://www.yubanet.com/artman/publish/article_67465.shtml
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2007/oct/93342.htm

This place is so screwed up it is going to take another 500 million to fix it!!!:kib:
Our Tax Dollar at work, Hey lets all pay more Taxes just to fix a foreign company"s Screw-ups +$144 million.:nono:

tavi
12-07-07, 03:10 PM
just in case anybodys still following this thread i found this today,




http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/22700.html

mexfishguide
12-08-07, 06:59 AM
WASHINGTON _ A State Department project manager banished from Iraq by the U.S. ambassador and under scrutiny by the Justice Department continues to oversee the construction of the much-delayed new American embassy in Baghdad from nearby Kuwait, State Department officials disclosed Thursday.

James L. Golden, a contract employee, is still managing the $740 million project, said Undersecretary of State ******* Kennedy, the department's top management official.

"Mr. Golden is still . . . our project manager, and still is working with the contractor, at their base in Kuwait," Kennedy said.

One State Department official with detailed knowledge of the unopened embassy expressed outrage that his superiors haven't replaced Golden.

"I find it absolutely amazing that State senior management doesn't seem to think it a trifle odd that two people under investigation . . . are still making all the management decisions under this same contract," the official said in an e-mail. The official asked for anonymity because he feared retaliation by his superiors.

Golden and the Baghdad-based embassy construction coordinator, Mary French, have been implicated in a Justice Department criminal investigation into how embassy construction subcontracts were issued, according to current and former U.S. officials and congressional testimony.

Neither Golden nor French has been charged with any wrongdoing.

Construction and safety problems have plagued the Baghdad embassy, originally scheduled to open in September. Kennedy and other top department officials have declined to provide a firm date for when it will be ready to house nearly 1,000 U.S. diplomats and staff.

Kuwaiti-based First Kuwaiti General Trading and Contracting Co. is constructing the embassy, which will be the largest American embassy in the world once it's completed.

Department officials defended the decision to leave Golden in place, saying it was necessary to provide continuity on the project. The department is working to overcome construction flaws that range from questions about the strength of blast walls to a fire-suppression system that failed inspection.

U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker banished Golden from Iraq after an incident last May in which a mortar round damaged a wall at the new embassy that was supposed to be blast resistant. Golden, along with First Kuwaiti, attempted to repair the damage before an investigation could be conducted, U.S. officials said.

Attempts to reach Golden for comment for this article were unsuccessful.

McClatchy first reported the criminal investigation into the embassy's construction in mid-October.

New details were made public a month later during a congressional hearing, in which it became known that the State Department's inspector general, Howard Krongard, had met personally with Golden and French despite warnings from his staff that such a personal meeting would "taint the investigation," according to a congressional report.

The two embassy project managers weren't mentioned by name in the report by majority Democrats on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. Golden was referred to as a "person of interest" in the Justice investigation, and French as a "subject of investigation."

But Krongard divulged their names publicly. "I would like to tell you what exactly I was doing, both with Mr. Golden and Ms. French," he told the committee.

According to the committee's report, Golden hasn't returned to the United States or made himself available for a follow-up interview since the August meeting with Krongard. Krongard has since recused himself, at Justice's request, from the embassy investigation.

Many details of the probe remain under wraps.

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Take Care
Mexfishguide:cheers

HeadRat
12-08-07, 09:20 AM
The part about the wall, if only they understood, knew, or at least acknowledged the fact that shaudy work and materials are used all over.

paintermike
12-08-07, 03:57 PM
The part about the wall, if only they understood, knew, or at least acknowledged the fact that shaudy work and materials are used all over. Hey ifin's yo really want to get this stuff out send it to boortz.com . It really chaps my hide to see--LITTERRALLY SEE MY MOTHERS,GRANDMOTHERS, AND MY MONEY SPENT BY SOME PEOPLE WHO JUS WANT TO SUCK MONEY ---INSTEAD OF GETTIN HER DONE!!!!

LAID BACK SPARKY
12-10-07, 10:11 AM
Hey fellow Americans;
Just read in the paper yesterday ,that the State Dept person Howard Krongard, was resigning after the first of the year , sound like he might have ran out of Bull shit for the General! what goes around comes around , This retired life is killing me!

Laid Back Sparky.

beer99
12-11-07, 07:55 AM
Apologies in advance for intruding here... I'm a journalist who's been writing extensively on the problems with the NEC Baghdad, and its lead contractor... If anyone on this forum has more details, or can help fill out the picture, I'd be grateful.... Info will be treated anonymously if desired.



Many thanks
:blahslap wstrobel2@yahoo.com

The Wild Rover
12-11-07, 10:34 AM
I am sure you will get what you want. There are many here with 15-20 years of overseas employment in the building trades, with that much more with that much experience in the States before they started overseas... and the issues discussed in various forums relates to how many here feel the system has been declining in quality, lack of cost effectiveness, fairness and just plain tax dollars spent foolishly by the current OBO building management. One of the biggest problems we face, as a unit, is the lack of skill being used on these projects and how that lack of skill ties in with the threat to our Nation when it comes to protecting our interests in our overseas diplomacy. Read the book "Moscow Station", and comprehend that some of these people currently in charge have slipped back to that same mentality in some aspects of the other nation, or host nation trust. Our interests as taxpayers, as basic as they are, are not being seen to as the current OBO management continues to admonish the confederacy of dunces attitude of companies like First Kuwait with high dollar contracts...whose brainy idea was it anyhow to have a foreign owned company build OUR embassy anyhow. That guy should be tarred and feathered. It's so sad.
Please...come on in,the waters fine.

electricalwizard
01-14-08, 04:45 PM
I am sure you will get what you want. There are many here with 15-20 years of overseas employment in the building trades, with that much more with that much experience in the States before they started overseas... and the issues discussed in various forums relates to how many here feel the system has been declining in quality, lack of cost effectiveness, fairness and just plain tax dollars spent foolishly by the current OBO building management. One of the biggest problems we face, as a unit, is the lack of skill being used on these projects and how that lack of skill ties in with the threat to our Nation when it comes to protecting our interests in our overseas diplomacy. Read the book "Moscow Station", and comprehend that some of these people currently in charge have slipped back to that same mentality in some aspects of the other nation, or host nation trust. Our interests as taxpayers, as basic as they are, are not being seen to as the current OBO management continues to admonish the confederacy of dunces attitude of companies like First Kuwait with high dollar contracts...whose brainy idea was it anyhow to have a foreign owned company build OUR embassy anyhow. That guy should be tarred and feathered. It's so sad.
Please...come on in,the waters fine.
this is a one,an Turkish company here in Kabul bid a road job for 350,000.000 An American company bid 700,000.000 for the same job the OBO gave the job to the American company because it said it would do a much better job the American Company hired the Same Turkish company to build the road and just splite the money,the American Company didn't even send anyone to Inspect the work,Tax Payers just get screwed out of 350,000.000 by the OBO.And the Kabul Embassy is a major house of cards to built by Turks same bullshit KBR got the job and subcontracted the whole thing.just paid off the OBO.I wish someone would start tracking the bank accounts of the OBO inspecters thats were they would find most of this tax money:doh